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	<title>Comments on: In Search of True Scenius: 3. Bob Dylan</title>
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		<title>By: Frank Luke</title>
		<link>http://magazine.enlightennext.org/2011/03/30/in-search-of-true-scenius-3-bob-dylan/comment-page-1/#comment-32679</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank Luke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2011 19:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Peter, re &quot; Do we really beleive in the single truth, whether or not it’s about spirituality or other terms?&quot;

I wonder if you&#039;re acquainted with the concept of &lt;b&gt;Perennial Truth&lt;/b&gt;?

This is something that&#039;s been formulated and passed down through the ages that for me underlies all spiritual beliefs (including any religion worthy of the name) as a common denominator.

You can ref it online. See if you would agree or not that it can be a common spiritual truth for all and for all time.

Let us know when you&#039;ve looked into it and thought about it.

Aloha, namaste!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Peter, re &#8221; Do we really beleive in the single truth, whether or not it’s about spirituality or other terms?&#8221;</p>
<p>I wonder if you&#8217;re acquainted with the concept of <b>Perennial Truth</b>?</p>
<p>This is something that&#8217;s been formulated and passed down through the ages that for me underlies all spiritual beliefs (including any religion worthy of the name) as a common denominator.</p>
<p>You can ref it online. See if you would agree or not that it can be a common spiritual truth for all and for all time.</p>
<p>Let us know when you&#8217;ve looked into it and thought about it.</p>
<p>Aloha, namaste!</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Luke</title>
		<link>http://magazine.enlightennext.org/2011/03/30/in-search-of-true-scenius-3-bob-dylan/comment-page-1/#comment-32677</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank Luke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2011 19:11:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Caroline,

Are you familiar with Masloff&#039;s &quot;Authentic Self&quot;? you can ref it online. I believe this is similar if not actually Spiritual Awakening in psychological secular terms.

Historically many mystics have talked about the event, and it&#039;s life-changing, at least for me personally. 

Having taken the Bodhisattva Vow, administered by the Dalai Lama no less, I feel I have the creds, certified. But &lt;b&gt;anyone who becomes wholly committed to the betterment of self,community, environment, nation and the planet is Spiritual Awakened&lt;/b&gt;, in my opinion. That&#039;s something I consider my Bodhisattva work. No more and no less, lots of work to do with devoted commitment.

My Awakening came as a blessed surprise, overwhelming me with a comprehension of matters I had not comprehended prior to the event and filled me with gratitude and joy for being so blessed. This occurred in my 40s and I am now a septuagenarian, so this is for keeps.

I think it&#039;s not necessary to have such a dramatic Awakening and believe many are perhaps born Awakened or have that commitment as a given, no big deal for them.

Thanks for the opp to try to define this and hope I&#039;ve succeeded in making it clear.

If there&#039;s any further questions, pls let me know.

Best, namaste, aloha, 
Frank</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Caroline,</p>
<p>Are you familiar with Masloff&#8217;s &#8220;Authentic Self&#8221;? you can ref it online. I believe this is similar if not actually Spiritual Awakening in psychological secular terms.</p>
<p>Historically many mystics have talked about the event, and it&#8217;s life-changing, at least for me personally. </p>
<p>Having taken the Bodhisattva Vow, administered by the Dalai Lama no less, I feel I have the creds, certified. But <b>anyone who becomes wholly committed to the betterment of self,community, environment, nation and the planet is Spiritual Awakened</b>, in my opinion. That&#8217;s something I consider my Bodhisattva work. No more and no less, lots of work to do with devoted commitment.</p>
<p>My Awakening came as a blessed surprise, overwhelming me with a comprehension of matters I had not comprehended prior to the event and filled me with gratitude and joy for being so blessed. This occurred in my 40s and I am now a septuagenarian, so this is for keeps.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s not necessary to have such a dramatic Awakening and believe many are perhaps born Awakened or have that commitment as a given, no big deal for them.</p>
<p>Thanks for the opp to try to define this and hope I&#8217;ve succeeded in making it clear.</p>
<p>If there&#8217;s any further questions, pls let me know.</p>
<p>Best, namaste, aloha,<br />
Frank</p>
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		<title>By: Andra Kins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andra Kins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 May 2011 01:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just finished reading Bob Dylan&#039;s CHRONICLES volume 1.  Couldn&#039;t put it down.  What really struck me were his descriptions of how the songs &#039;emerged&#039; fully formed at times from this place of creativity - that we can see was the collective push in our western culture at that time in the 60&#039;s for something new to come forth.  What also struck me was his total single-mindedness in terms of what he wanted to do - his total interest in folk music, and how he only spent listening to folk music, playing it and hanging out with like minded people - actively seeking them out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just finished reading Bob Dylan&#8217;s CHRONICLES volume 1.  Couldn&#8217;t put it down.  What really struck me were his descriptions of how the songs &#8216;emerged&#8217; fully formed at times from this place of creativity &#8211; that we can see was the collective push in our western culture at that time in the 60&#8242;s for something new to come forth.  What also struck me was his total single-mindedness in terms of what he wanted to do &#8211; his total interest in folk music, and how he only spent listening to folk music, playing it and hanging out with like minded people &#8211; actively seeking them out.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Luke</title>
		<link>http://magazine.enlightennext.org/2011/03/30/in-search-of-true-scenius-3-bob-dylan/comment-page-1/#comment-32264</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank Luke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 May 2011 18:57:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Caroline, 

If by your comment you mean to say that Light is the source/foundation of Everything, OK--that&#039;s cool.

But I submit that seeing that the Personal and the Cosmic, including Light, are one gives as much meaning to what goes on as far as human affairs is concerned and that should not be diminished in its import.

Aloha, Frank Luke</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Caroline, </p>
<p>If by your comment you mean to say that Light is the source/foundation of Everything, OK&#8211;that&#8217;s cool.</p>
<p>But I submit that seeing that the Personal and the Cosmic, including Light, are one gives as much meaning to what goes on as far as human affairs is concerned and that should not be diminished in its import.</p>
<p>Aloha, Frank Luke</p>
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		<title>By: Caroline Hitch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Caroline Hitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Apr 2011 03:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>...actually, ecological consciousness is just a pale description of reality as regards consciousness, or anything else.  How about: everything that exists is made out of Light.  If you take the time to connect the dots you&#039;d see for yourself that it&#039;s true.  There is nothing but Light and its permutations; from big bang to hydrogen to stars to solar systems to life to photosynthesis to mind...Light is the great Ouroboros, consuming itself in the process of its own transcendence!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;actually, ecological consciousness is just a pale description of reality as regards consciousness, or anything else.  How about: everything that exists is made out of Light.  If you take the time to connect the dots you&#8217;d see for yourself that it&#8217;s true.  There is nothing but Light and its permutations; from big bang to hydrogen to stars to solar systems to life to photosynthesis to mind&#8230;Light is the great Ouroboros, consuming itself in the process of its own transcendence!</p>
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		<title>By: Caroline Hitch</title>
		<link>http://magazine.enlightennext.org/2011/03/30/in-search-of-true-scenius-3-bob-dylan/comment-page-1/#comment-31811</link>
		<dc:creator>Caroline Hitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2011 22:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys need to move on to an ecological consciousness.  Androcentric spirituality--or androcentric anything else--no longer offers a viable approach to reality.  The times they are a-changin...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys need to move on to an ecological consciousness.  Androcentric spirituality&#8211;or androcentric anything else&#8211;no longer offers a viable approach to reality.  The times they are a-changin&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Caroline Hitch</title>
		<link>http://magazine.enlightennext.org/2011/03/30/in-search-of-true-scenius-3-bob-dylan/comment-page-1/#comment-31786</link>
		<dc:creator>Caroline Hitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Apr 2011 06:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Tom and Frank,

I know I&#039;m off topic but here&#039;s my gripe--the term &quot;spiritually awakened&quot; gets so much press in these blogs but has anyone ever described an example of it?  Labels without substance are shells that people hide behind, the same way that any other ideology or religion can be used.  To me something very serious is missing, as though I&#039;ve walked into room of lobotomized patients.  Everyone&#039;s speaking but the words don&#039;t really seem to come from anything deeper than a need to feel comforted, a need to belong--or a need to feel spiritually superior.  It&#039;s sad really.  Somehow or another, the guts are missing.  Wish Andrew would realize that Life needed guts in order to survive and evolve (if evolution is something that he actually seriously considers.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Tom and Frank,</p>
<p>I know I&#8217;m off topic but here&#8217;s my gripe&#8211;the term &#8220;spiritually awakened&#8221; gets so much press in these blogs but has anyone ever described an example of it?  Labels without substance are shells that people hide behind, the same way that any other ideology or religion can be used.  To me something very serious is missing, as though I&#8217;ve walked into room of lobotomized patients.  Everyone&#8217;s speaking but the words don&#8217;t really seem to come from anything deeper than a need to feel comforted, a need to belong&#8211;or a need to feel spiritually superior.  It&#8217;s sad really.  Somehow or another, the guts are missing.  Wish Andrew would realize that Life needed guts in order to survive and evolve (if evolution is something that he actually seriously considers.)</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Luke</title>
		<link>http://magazine.enlightennext.org/2011/03/30/in-search-of-true-scenius-3-bob-dylan/comment-page-1/#comment-31785</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank Luke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Apr 2011 21:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Peter,

There are certain things that we humans collectively agree are true and that acceptance persists until proven to be less true when other &quot;truths&quot; come along to supplant them. In this way I believe there&#039;s aren&#039;t absolute truths but those true enough for the time being.

There are those who want to nail truth down, even scientists, thinkers and religious believers and this sometimes is cause for conservative and reactionary folks unwilling to entertain change and new ideas even when presented with evidence that indicates something is truer and more accurate.

New concepts are tested by their credibility and widespread acceptance of the thinking community. As we see, a cultural lag often exists especially when religion refuses to acknowledge science (think Evolution, etc) but facts often present incovenient truths and if really true, become accepted eventually.

This is how I view the dynamic of how truth develops.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Peter,</p>
<p>There are certain things that we humans collectively agree are true and that acceptance persists until proven to be less true when other &#8220;truths&#8221; come along to supplant them. In this way I believe there&#8217;s aren&#8217;t absolute truths but those true enough for the time being.</p>
<p>There are those who want to nail truth down, even scientists, thinkers and religious believers and this sometimes is cause for conservative and reactionary folks unwilling to entertain change and new ideas even when presented with evidence that indicates something is truer and more accurate.</p>
<p>New concepts are tested by their credibility and widespread acceptance of the thinking community. As we see, a cultural lag often exists especially when religion refuses to acknowledge science (think Evolution, etc) but facts often present incovenient truths and if really true, become accepted eventually.</p>
<p>This is how I view the dynamic of how truth develops.</p>
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		<title>By: dave pendle</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave pendle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Apr 2011 20:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For more on the true genius of Bob Dylan see Martin Scorcese&#039;s documentary &#039;No Direction Home&#039;. The film captures the monumental shift of the times with Bob the arch mythopoet ushering a new culture with his epic blend of protest, jagged arrhythmic word tapestries, gravelly voice and buzz saw harmonica. &#039;Tangled up in Blue&#039; is when I first started to really like his music otherwise this combo was harsh on the ear... But his words his words his words.... The archetypal pied piper poet languaged in the future, the voice of the changing times...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For more on the true genius of Bob Dylan see Martin Scorcese&#8217;s documentary &#8216;No Direction Home&#8217;. The film captures the monumental shift of the times with Bob the arch mythopoet ushering a new culture with his epic blend of protest, jagged arrhythmic word tapestries, gravelly voice and buzz saw harmonica. &#8216;Tangled up in Blue&#8217; is when I first started to really like his music otherwise this combo was harsh on the ear&#8230; But his words his words his words&#8230;. The archetypal pied piper poet languaged in the future, the voice of the changing times&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: peterA</title>
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		<dc:creator>peterA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Apr 2011 04:39:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting thoughts in sprituality and inidividuness :) Do we really beleive in the single truth, whether or not it&#039;s about spirituality or other terms? All our concepts are born within ourself, culturally, together and alone ;) Who is right and who is not will not be of my judgement. There are, or There isn&#039;t can&#039;t be valid statements. Instead i would like to here more about the hows and whys and where&#039;ll that lead us...

So thank you all for participating and enrichening me ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting thoughts in sprituality and inidividuness :) Do we really beleive in the single truth, whether or not it&#8217;s about spirituality or other terms? All our concepts are born within ourself, culturally, together and alone ;) Who is right and who is not will not be of my judgement. There are, or There isn&#8217;t can&#8217;t be valid statements. Instead i would like to here more about the hows and whys and where&#8217;ll that lead us&#8230;</p>
<p>So thank you all for participating and enrichening me ;)</p>
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